The other day I was showing my husband Troy what I was working on…starting to investigate the Taylor Family. He asked how many generations back I had for his various lines and I showed him. On his mother’s side (which I haven’t even begun to look at) he had up to 9 generations back! On his father’s side, I told him that any of the names we had I had personally added to the database – no one had given me anything to work with. So, his Lund side which I have already researched extensively (although there is always more work to do) went back 6 generations. His Taylor line…not so much. So, looking at the pedigree he asked about one man in particular – “Who is Joseph Taylor?”
As you can see I didn’t know Joseph’s parents…he’s was the end of the line. When I opened up his person window, here’s all I had:
All I knew was that he was born in Kentucky. The only sources I had for that information was his daughter’s death certificate, which gave me his name and birth place and the 1900 census which just listed her father’s birth place as Kentucky. That’s it! So the search began.
I was trying to show Troy right then how I go about researching people and thought I might try to find Joseph Taylor with his daughter Ada Rose in a census. I knew a lot more about Ada –
I figured since she was born in 1872 I would try to find her in a census as a child living with her parents. I already had her living with her husband in the 1900 census, the previous census 1890 was destroyed in a fire so I decided to search for her in the 1880 census. I did a quick FamilySearch search and here’s what I got –
Now, FamilySearch didn’t have the images online for this, so all I had was the index. Here, Ada is listed as 7 years old living with her mother Hannah, no Joseph Taylor as her father. Discussing this with my husband I reasoned – Perhaps Joseph Taylor had already died by now?!
My next step was to go to the local Family History Center and download the original image.
Note: Why not just search for Joseph in the 1870 census. Here was my reasoning – I know nothing about him except his name, that he was born in Kentucky (and I knew that only according to his daughter Ada’s death certificate which her husband filled out, and a census that may or may not be accurate) I have no idea how old he is or where he would have been living in 1870. I believe his wife’s name is Hannah, but how many Joseph Taylor’s married to a Hannah might there be in the 1870 census? So I thought I better exhaust the 1880 census before moving on.
To be continued …. can you hardly stand it?
Posted by jullianalund@gmail.com on 23 March 2012 | Posted in Researching, Taylor |
A few months ago, on one of my trips to the Family History Library in Salt Lake I discovered the Plain City Ward Records from 1859-1948 (US/CAN Film #26388), which included a record of members. Since the Lund’s had settled there this was a goldmine!
Now that I’m turning my attention to the Taylor line, I’m starting at the end. Remember, in genealogy we start with the most recent information and work our way back. That means starting with the Victor Erastus Lund and Edith Pearl Taylor family.
I did find a great resource online, the Taylor Family Association which has done a lot of research on this line of Taylors. However, I already found a few errors when reviewing their database, which I already submitted to the moderator. Basically, this means that I will need to go through all the information I found there and verify it with some kind of source. At least it gives me a general direction to work in.
For now, let’s take a look at these LDS Church Records for the Victor Lund family, from the late 1930’s.
Source: Plain City Ward, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Plain City, Utah), Plain City Ward record of members, 1859-1948, no. 337, Victor E. Lund; FHL microfilm 26388.
No. 337
Name in Full – Victor E. Lund
Sex –
Father’s Name – Mathias C. Lund
Mother’s Maiden Name – Pauline Swensen
Born at Plain City, Weber, Ut – 13 Dec 1888
Baptized by Jos. Rawson – 11 Jul 1897
Confirmed by Mathias C. Lund – 11 Jul 1897
Priest – ordained by Wm. G. Rhead – 1 Jun 1908
Elder – ordained by Wm. G. Rhead – 21 Dec 1908
Seventy – ordained by Brigham H. Roberts – 20 Nov 1910
Married to Pearl Taylor – Temple – 18 Jan 1911
Source: Plain City Ward, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Plain City, Utah), Plain City Ward record of members, 1859-1948, no. 338, Pearl Lund; FHL microfilm 26388.
No. 338
Name in Full – Pearl Lund
Sex – Female
Father’s Name – William Taylor
Mother’s Maiden Name – Ada Taylor
Born at Plain City, Weber, Ut – 28 Jun 1891
Baptized by S.C. Praney – 3 Jul 1890
Confirmed by —– – 3 Jul 1890
Married to Victor E. Lund – Temple – 18 Jan 1911
Source: Plain City Ward, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Plain City, Utah), Plain City Ward record of members, 1859-1948, no. 339, Ada May Lund; FHL microfilm 26388.
No. 339
Cancellation {X}
Name in Full – Ada May Lund
Sex – Female
Father’s Name – Victor E. Lund
Mother’s Maiden Name – Pearl E. Taylor
Born at Plain City, Weber Co., Ut – 11 Sep 1914
Blessed by Mathias C. Lund – 1 Nov 1914
Baptized by Edwin R. Wooley – 3 Jun 1923
Confirmed by Hyrum E. Lund – 3 Jun 1923
Married to Howard M. Frasier – Temple – 24 Oct 19[34?]
Removed to – Clinton.
Source: Plain City Ward, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Plain City, Utah), Plain City Ward record of members, 1859-1948, no. 340, Eugene Victor Lund; FHL microfilm 26388.
No. 340
Name in Full – Eugene Victor Lund
Sex – M
Father’s Name – Victor E. Lund
Mother’s Maiden Name – Pearl Taylor
Born at Plain City, Weber Co., Ut – 3 Dec 1918
Blessed by Mathias C. Lund – 2 Feb 1919
Baptized by Elmer P. Carver – 3 Apr 1927
Confirmed by Thomas Jenkins – 3 Apr 1927
Deacon – ordained by George A. Palmer – 21 Jun 1931
Teacher – ordained by Thomas Jenkins – 4 Feb 1934
Priest – ordained by Geo A. Palmer – 19 Jan 1936
Posted by jullianalund@gmail.com on 22 March 2012 | Posted in Church Records, Lund, Taylor |
I’ve posted about Ada before but today after showing Troy some of what I’ve been doing, I ended up finding a newspaper notice for her death.
Source: University of Utah, “Random References,” death notice, Ogden Standard Examiner, 10 September 1909, Ada Rose Taylor death announcement; online images, Utah Digital Newspapers (digitalnewspapers.org : downloaded 15 March 2012).
Mrs. Taylor Passes Away — Mrs. Ada Rose Taylor, wife of William Taylor of Plain City and daughter of Joseph Taylor of Harrisville, died yesterday afternoon at 3 o’clock. Her bebe died a few minutes after. Mrs. Taylor had many friends by whom she was held in high esteem. She was but thirty-seven years old and leaves a husband and seven children.
Posted by jullianalund@gmail.com on 15 March 2012 | Posted in Death Notice, Newspaper, Taylor |
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My brother has been helping me with the Brazilian side of my family. He has some time where he can do the digging in the records online. So, I was taking a look at my Grandmother Deolinda’s family to see what records I need him to find for me. In the process, I found her parents’ marriage record online on Family Search. I had my dad help me with the translation and transcription.
Source: Corregedor Geral da Justicia, São Paulo, Brasil, “Brazil Civil Registrations, 1870-2009,” digital image, Family Search (familysearch.org : downloaded 14 March 2012), Jose Ferreira and Anna Thome, Marriage Record, 16 Dec 1911; Rio de Janeiro, Rio de Janeiro, 05ª Circunscrição, Matrimonios 1911 Set – 1912 June V. 15, image 49.
Transcription:
Aos desesseis de dezembro de mil novecentos e onze, nesta cidade de Rio de Janeiro, em a sala de audiencias da Sétima Pretoria, onde se achava o Meritissimo juiz em exercicio, Doutor Flaminio Barbosa de Resende, commigo escrivão ahi, ao meio dia, perante as testemunhas Manoel de Amorim Junior e Alfredo Martins Noronha, receberam-se em matrimonio, com as formalidades legaes e pelo regimen commum , Jose Ferreira e Anna Thomé, naturaes de Portugal e moradores a rua de Nossa Senhora de Copacabana numero trinta, elle, de vinte e seis annos de edade, viuvo, operario, filho natural de Barbara Pinto; ella, de vinte e quarto anos de idade, filha legitima de Francisco Thomé e de Maria de Jesus; os quaes neste acto declararam que não têm parentesco nem impedimento para se casarem com o outro pelo que o Juiz os delarou legitimamente casados e mandou lavrar este temro que, lido e achado conforme, assignaram, fazendo-o a rogo dos nubentes, por não saberem escrever, Conrado da Silva e —————— Augusto de Campos. Eu, —————- escrevente juramentado, no impedimento do —–
Flaminio Barbosa de Rezende
Conrado Da Silva
—- Augusto de Campos
Manoel de de Amorim Jr, 24 annos, commercio, Rua de Da. Clara 186.
Alfredo Martins Noronha. 21 annos, guarda civil, Rua Alice 40.
Translation:
On the sixteenth of December of nineteen hundred and eleven, in this city of Rio de Janeiro, in the audience room of the 7th Civil Court, where was found the Honorary judge in office, Dr. Flaminio Barbosa de Resende, as well as myself as scribe, at noon, in front of the witnesses Manoel de Amorim Junior and Alfredo Martins Noronha, received each other in matrimony, with the legal formalities and by the regimen of community, José Ferreira and Anna Thomé, originally from Portugal and residing at Rua de Nossa Senhora de Copacabana number 30, he, twenty six years old, widower, workman, natural son of Barbara Pinto; she, twenty four years old, legitimate daughter of Francisco Thomé and Maria de Jesus; which in this act declare that are not related and have no hindrance to this marriage, after which the judge declared them legally wedded and asked to create this record which, being read and found correct, signed, at the request of the newlyweds, being both illiterate, Conrado da Silva and —— Augusto de Campos. I, sworn clerk, in the absence of ———————
Flaminio Barbosa de Rezende
Conrado Da Silva
—- Augusto de Campos
Manoel de Amorim Jr, 24 years old, retailer, Rua de Da. Clara 186.
Alfredo Martins Noronha. 21 annos, security, Rua Alice 40.
Interesting:
- According to my dad, Jose should be listed as 36 years old and not 26. He remembers always being told that he was 12 years older than Anna. Here’s his explaination: It could be a misunderstanding due to their accent or they lied because they were also ashamed of the “scandalous difference”. It makes sense because he had children from the first marriage and at 26, it’s possible, but not normal for someone to father a few children and lose his wife and take some time for mourning before re-marrying.
- Also, the name I have for Jose’s mother is Barbara Rita not Barbara Pinto. Maybe that’s why I’ve had such trouble moving back.
- This record lists where they were living – Rua de Nossa Senhora de Copacabana number 30 (literally Our Lady of Copacabana Street). So, a quick search on GoogleMaps gave me a visual of the location…just two blocks from the beach.
Posted by jullianalund@gmail.com on 14 March 2012 | Posted in Ferreira, Maps, Marriage Record, Photograph, Thome |
