George and Eliza (Barnes) Freestone Marriage Certificate

Last time I mentioned that I had found the index record that matched for George Freestone and Eliza Barnes marriage. I went ahead and ordered the certified copy of the original record.

Suffolk, marriage certificate (long form), George Freestone and Eliza Barnes, June 20, 1847; Suffolk County; General Register Office, London, England, UK. Wangford, vol. 13, page 769, entry 25.

Abstract:

George Freestone and Eliza Barnes were married in the Parish Church in the Parish of Bungay Trinity in the County of Suffolk on 20 June 1847. He is the 22 year old son of Isaac Freestone, and she is the 20 year old daughter of Joseph Barnes, both labourers. At the time of the marriage the bride and groom were both living in the Parish of Bungay Trinity, he working as a labourer and she as a servant.

Holy Trinity Church, Bungay, Suffolk, England, UK

What I learned

This copy of the original marriage record gave me more information than I already had – that was the point of ordering it, right?!

I now have the specific marriage date – 20 June 1847.
I also have their ages at marriage which helps corroborate their birth dates. George’s age matches the birth date I already have for him of 6 Mar 1825. But, Eliza’s birth date of 18 Jul 1829 doesn’t match with her given age of 20. Those dates were inherited in the database and had no sources linked to them, so I will have to do more research to find the actual birth dates. This marriage certificate at least points me in the right direction.
The bride and groom as well as their witnesses were illiterate since they all used “x” and their mark.
It appears that Eliza’s relatives served as the witnesses. Perhaps the Joseph Barnes is her father (or maybe brother). I’m not sure about the Eleanor. Although, again from the inherited database, Eliza had a brother and sister by those names.

What now?

I need to investigate these families more fully. But, before I work backwards in time I need to be sure I find all the children of George and Eliza and also find their death records.

Holy Trinity Church, Bungay, Suffolk, England, UK

Posted by jullianalund@gmail.com on 21 June 2014 | Posted in Barnes, Freestone, Marriage Certificate, Marriage Record, United Kingdom | Comment

George and Eliza (Barnes) Freestone Marriage

Trying to work my way back in England has been a bit tougher than I thought.

Yesterday I discussed how I found Edward Freestone’s (b. 1825) birth registration. The next logical step seemed to be to find his parents’ marriage record.

What I already knew

All that I had from the database I inherited from Troy’s Aunt was:

George Freestone, b. 6 Mar 1825 in Flexton, Suffolk, England was married about 1864 in England to Elizabeth Barnes, b. 18 Jul 1829 in St. Lawrence, Ilketshall, Suffolk, England.

The only evidence for this information was that “England” was correct for their birth places based on their son Edward’s US census records.

There are some issues with this marriage date. First, its not very specific in regards to both date and place. Second, according to this same inherited database George and Elizabeth’s first child (Alfred) was born in 1848 (16 years prior to the alleged marriage date). Of course, that may well be the case but it does raise some concern and leads me to question the accuracy of that information (either the marriage date or Alfred’s birth date).

So now to find the Marriage Record

I went to freeBMD.org.uk once again but now had to be a bit more strategic. I did a search for “George Freestone” who would have married at any time between 1840 and 1870. Since I had to specify a county, I chose Suffolk, since that is where both George and Eliza were born (according to this inherited database – hey, you have to start somewhere) and where I found Edward (their son’s) birth record.

I saved this search as a PDF. That way I could compare it to my search for Elizabeth. Since all that freeBMD gives is the one person’s name and their record number I had to find a matching Elizabeth with the same marriage record in order for there to be a George Freestone marrying and Elizabeth Barnes.

Here’s a screenshot of what that looks like:

Note that under Marriages in June Quarter of 1847 (April-June) there is an Eliza Barnes with the same record Volume and page number. This was the only match of a George Freestone marrying and Eliza Barnes.

This must be my couple!

So, now I know which record I need to order. I can now request the certified copy of the filmed original from the UK General Register Office and wait a few weeks for it to arrive.

For now, as I wait, I can at least change the marriage date in my database to a more specific: April-June 1847 in Wangford, Suffolk, England, United Kingdom.

Posted by jullianalund@gmail.com on 19 January 2014 | Posted in England, Freestone, Marriage Record | 1 Comment

Edward Freestone’s Birthday

I have two possible birth dates for Edward Freestone.

My first known birth date was 7 July 1855. I have done quite a bit of research on Edward and have quite a few sources for his life. In fact, for this specific date I have 9 sources!

Sources for 7 July 1855

Edward Freestone’s Death Certificate. Edward’s death certificate gives his date of birth as 7 July 1855 and the location as England.
1900 U.S. Census, Edward Freestone Household. Gives Edward’s birth date as July 1855 and place as England.
1910 US Census, Edward Freestone Household. Edwards Age is listed as 55 years old in the 1910 census, which would make his birth year about 1855. Also, lists his birth place as England.
Newspaper Announcement of his upcoming 80th birthday, dated 5 July 1935.
1920 U.S. Federal Census, Ralph G. Warner Household.The 1920 US Census states that Catherine Warner (Freestone)’s father (Edward) was born in England.
1930 U.S. Federal Census, Ralph G. Warner Household. 1930 US Census list’s Katherine Warner’s father’s birth place as England.
1920 U.S. Census, Edward Freestone Household. Age on 22 Jan 1920 reported as 64 years old, and birth place as England.
1930 U.S. Census, Edward Freestone Household. Age on 9 Apr 1930 reported as 74 years old and birth place as England.
Edward Freestone’s newspaper obituary, printed 9 May 1941. Gives age as 85 and birth date as July 7, 1855 at Suffolk county England.

As you can see, only 2 sources (his death certificate and obituary) specifically give 7 July 1855 as Edward’s date of birth. The rest either give just his age, or place of birth. So this is the date I went with.

Until…

I went looking for his Birth Registration.

To find Civil Birth Registrations for the UK you need to look through the index and then order the copy directly form the General Register Office. I used is the freeBMD.org.uk index and found my potential Edward. The problem with the index is that it only lists births/marriages/deaths by Quarter (So Jan-Apr, Mar-Jun, July-Sep, Oct-Dec) and then Gives the District, and Volume/Page where the entry is found. Luckily I knew that Edward was born in Suffolk County, but there were two possible results.

Both of these Edwards were born in the Sep 1855 quarter (July-Sept 1855) in the same county. No other information is listed in the index so, unless I order the certified copy, I won’t know anything else. I decided to go with the Wangford District since it was closest to the town of South Elmham, which I already had in my family records.

Here’s the digital image of the original index.

After my £9.25 fee was paid, and about two weeks later, I received the certified copy in the mail.

Luckily it was the correct one!

Abstract:

Edward born 16 July 1855 in St. Cross Southelmham, in Bungay, Wangford, Suffolk County, England, United Kingdom. He is the son of George Freestone and Eliza Freestone, formerly Barnes. His father, George is an Agricultural Laborer, and is illiterate since he used “x” as his mark.

But, this record does bring up some issues. Edward’s birth date is listed as 16 July 1855 instead of 7 July. So, which record(s) are correct?

I decided that since the only other records I had that explicitly stated the date of 7 July were his death record and obituary that perhaps this birth record (which was registered on 27 Aug 1855) is most likely correct. The informant on his death certificate was his son George Freestone who most definitely was not present at his own father’s birth. And, Edward’s obituary was again written 85 years after his birth by someone who was not present. Ultimately, I “know” my own birth date only because its the date that someone told me (or that I remember someone telling me). But, since this record was created much closer to the actual date, I believe it to be more accurate.

But, does it really matter?

Ultimately, no not really.

However, for accuracy sake, yes it does. Also, this birth record gives me a lot more information that I need to continue working backwards in time. I now know:

Edward’s birth date is 16 July 1855.
The location of his birth was St. Cross, Southelmham, in Bungay, Wangford, Suffolk County, England, UK – which narrows down where I might search for other vital records for his family.
His parents were George and Eliza (Barnes) Freestone – which should help me in tracking down their marriage record.
And just for fun, I know that George was an Agricultural Laborer (farmer?) and that he was illiterate.

Posted by jullianalund@gmail.com on 18 January 2014 | Posted in Birth Record, England, Freestone | Comment

SNGF – "Heritage Pie Chart" – Troy’s side

A few weeks ago Randy Seaver posted a Saturday Night Geneaology Fun Challenge. It’s taken me this long to get to it!

Your mission tonight, should you decide to accept it, is to:
1. List your 16 great-great-grandparents with their birth, death and marriage data (dates and places). [Hint – you might use an Ancestral Name List from your software for this.]
2. Determine the countries (or states) that these ancestors lived in at their birth and at their death.
3. For extra credit, go make a “Heritage Pie” chart for the country of origin (birth place) for these 16 ancestors. [Hint: you could use the chart generator from Kid Zone for this.] [Note: Thank you to Sheri Fenley for the “Heritage Pie” chart idea.]
4. Tell us about it in your own blog post, in a comment to this post, or in a post on Facebook or google+.

I decided to split this up into two posts, one for Troy and one for me. Today, I’ll share Troy’s chart:

As you can see, this was the immigrating generation! Take a look at the raw data:

While most were born outside of the United States (9 out of 14), all died in the United States, and of those, all but one in Utah. Troy is from LDS Pioneer stock on both sides.

Here’s the details on everyone.
I just used the “narrative report” option in Roots Magic to get all this information. It’s pretty long to read through, but this may help someone who’s doing a google search on these same ancestors – I’d love to meet new cousins! You can really tell who I’ve done the most research on!

16. Mathias Christian Funk LUND was also known as Mathias Kristian Funch on 31 Aug 1849. He was born on 31 Aug 1849 in Arnager, Nylarsker, Bornholm, Denmark. He was born on 1 Sep 1849 in Arnager, Nylarsker, Bornholm, Denmark. Mathias was christened on 7 Oct 1849 in Nylarsker, Bornholm, Denmark. He was confirmed a member of the LDS Church on 1 Jan 1858. He was baptized into the LDS Church on 5 Sep 1858. Mathias immigrated on 28 Jul 1869 to New York, New York, United States at left from Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland. He was naturalized in 1874. He received LDS initiatory on 11 May 1874 in the Endowment House. Mathias was endowed on 11 May 1874 in the Endowment House. He appeared in the census on 2 Jun 1880 in Plain City, Weber, Utah, United States. On 2 Jun 1880 he was a Farmer in Plain City, Weber, Utah, United States. Mathias served a mission from 20 Jun 1888 to 24 Apr 1890 at Copenhagen Conference in Copenhagen, Copenhagen, Denmark. He was sealed to his parents on 29 Jun 1892 in the Logan Utah temple. On 7 Jun 1900 he was a Farmer in Plain City, Weber, Utah, United States. Mathias appeared in the census on 7 Jun 1900 in Plain City, Weber, Utah, United States. He appeared in the census on 20 Apr 1910 in Plain City, Weber, Utah, United States. On 20 Apr 1910 he was a Farmer in Plain City, Weber, Utah, United States. Mathias appeared in the census on 3 Jan 1920 in Plain City, Weber, Utah, United States. On 3 Jan 1920 he was a Farmer in Plain City, Weber, Utah, United States. He lived in Plain City, Weber, Utah, United States on 3 Jan 1920. Mathias was hopitalized from 24 Feb 1926 to 2 Mar 1926 at the Dee Hospital in Ogden, Weber, Utah, United States. He died of pneumonia following a prostectomy, at the Dee Hospital on 2 Mar 1926 at the age of 76 in Ogden, Weber, Utah, United States. He was buried on 5 Mar 1926 at Plain City Cemetery in Plain City, Weber, Utah, United States. Pauline Persson SWENSSON and Mathias Christian Funk LUND were married on 11 May 1874 in Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, United States. They were sealed together on 11 May 1874 in the Endowment House.

17. Pauline Persson SWENSSON was born on 10 Dec 1854 in Swelufton, Svalov, Malmohus, Sweden. She was christened on 10 Dec 1854 in Svalov, Malmohus, Sweden. She immigrated in 1863. Pauline was baptized into the LDS Church on 5 Jun 1863. She was confirmed a member of the LDS Church on 5 Jun 1863. She immigrated in 1869. Pauline was naturalized in 1874. She received LDS initiatory on 11 May 1874 in the Endowment House. She was endowed on 11 May 1874 in the Endowment House. Pauline appeared in the census on 2 Jun 1880 in Plain City, Weber, Utah, United States as the wife of Mathias Christian Funk LUND. She appeared in the census on 7 Jun 1900 in Plain City, Weber, Utah, United States as the wife of Mathias Christian Funk LUND. She appeared in the census on 20 Apr 1910 in Plain City, Weber, Utah, United States as the wife of Mathias Christian Funk LUND. Pauline appeared in the census on 3 Jan 1920 in Plain City, Weber, Utah, United States as the wife of Mathias Christian Funk LUND. She died of cerebral apoplexy on 21 Jan 1924 at the age of 69 at at home in Plain City, Weber, Utah, United States. She was buried on 23 Jan 1924 at Plain City Cemetery in Plain City, Weber, Utah, United States. Pauline was sealed to her parents on 2 Apr 1974 in the Salt Lake temple.

20. Oscar Alfred ANDERSON Sr. was born on 21 Oct 1854 in Copenhagen, Copenhagen, Denmark. He was confirmed a member of the LDS Church on 1 Jan 1863. He was baptized into the LDS Church on 11 Nov 1863. Oscar received LDS initiatory on 11 Nov 1896 in the Manti Utah temple. He was endowed on 11 Nov 1896 in the Manti Utah temple. He was sealed to his parents on 11 Nov 1896 in the Manti Utah temple. Before 30 Nov 1922 Oscar was a Farmer in Meadow, Millard, Utah, United States. He died of a hemorrhage of the brain on 30 Nov 1922 at the age of 68 at at home in Meadow, Millard, Utah, United States. He was buried on 3 Dec 1922 at Anderson Cemetery in Kanosh, Millard, Utah, United States. Oscar was sealed to his parents on 10 Oct 1945 in the Salt Lake temple. Thirza Jane LEE and Oscar Alfred ANDERSON Sr. were married on 28 May 1878 in Meadow, Millard, Utah, United States. They were sealed together on 29 May 1902 in the Manti Utah temple.

21. Thirza Jane LEE was also known as Thersea Jane Lee. She was born on 25 Oct 1855 in Palmyra, Millard, Utah, United States. She was baptized into the LDS Church in 1863. Thirza died on 16 Jul 1894 at the age of 38 in Meadow, Millard, Utah, United States. She received LDS initiatory on 29 May 1902 in the Manti Utah temple. She was endowed on 29 May 1902 in the Manti Utah temple. Thirza was baptized into the LDS Church on 30 Nov 1967 in the Salt Lake temple. She was confirmed a member of the LDS Church on 30 Nov 1967 in the Salt Lake temple. She was sealed to her parents.

22. William MILLS was born on 15 Dec 1828 in Marylebone, Middlesex, England. He died in 1887 at the age of 59 in Kanosh, Millard, Utah, United States. Mary Ann WALLER and William MILLS were married in 1855.

23. Mary Ann WALLER was born on 16 Jun 1838 in Bagshot, Surrey, England, United Kingdom. She died on 25 Oct 1925 at the age of 87 in Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, United States.

24. George William RANSON was born on 21 Feb 1853 in Trindon, Durham, England. He was baptized into the LDS Church on 6 Jun 1863. He was endowed on 7 Jul 1881 in the Endowment House. George received LDS initiatory on 7 Jul 1881 in the Endowment House. He was buried in Aug 1888 in Coalville, Summit, Utah, United States. He died on 8 Aug 1888 at the age of 35 in Ogden, Weber, Utah, United States. George was sealed to his parents on 10 Oct 1895 in the Salt Lake temple. He was confirmed a member of the LDS Church on 20 Oct 1995 in the Salt Lake temple. Martha Maria ADDY and George William RANSON were married on 7 Jul 1881 in Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, United States. They were sealed together on 7 Jul 1881 in the Endowment House.

25. Martha Maria ADDY was christened in 7. She was born on 16 May 1861 in Sheffield, West Riding of Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom. She was confirmed a member of the LDS Church in Jun 1869. Martha was baptized into the LDS Church on 6 Jun 1869. She was endowed on 7 Jul 1881 in the Endowment House. She received LDS initiatory on 7 Jul 1881 in the Endowment House. Martha was sealed to her parents on 28 Apr 1896 in the Salt Lake temple. She died on 3 Oct 1944 at the age of 83 in Santa Clara, Santa Clara, California, United States. She was buried on 8 Oct 1944 in Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, United States.

26. John CORLESS was born on 12 Jan 1833 in Langton, Lance, England. He was christened on 10 Feb 1833 in Langton, Lance, England. He was baptized into the LDS Church on 23 Aug 1855. John was endowed on 9 Feb 1858 in the Endowment House. He received initiatory ordinances on 9 Feb 1858 in the temple. He was sealed to his parents on 22 Jul 1872 in the Endowment House. John was confirmed a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints on 23 Aug 1872 . He died on 14 Nov 1924 at the age of 91 in Randolph, Rich, Utah, United States. He was buried on 18 Nov 1924 in Randolph, Rich, Utah, United States. John has Ancestral File Number 18PS-8F. Mary Ann “Polly” KNOX and John CORLESS were married on 22 Jul 1872 in Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, United States. They were sealed together on 22 Jul 1872 in the Endowment House.

27. Mary Ann “Polly” KNOX was born on 9 Apr 1855 in Saint Louis, Saint Louis, Missouri, United States. She was baptized into the LDS Church in 1863. She was confirmed a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints on 1 Jan 1863 . Polly was endowed on 22 Jul 1872 in the Endowment House. She received initiatory ordinances on 22 Jul 1872 in the temple. She died on 29 Jul 1931 at the age of 76 in Randolph, Rich, Utah, United States. Polly was buried on 1 Aug 1931 in Randolph, Rich, Utah, United States. She was sealed to her parents on 25 Oct 1950 in the Salt Lake temple. She has Ancestral File Number 27KR-KD.

28. William Goodman WARNER was born on 14 Aug 1856 in Ogden, Weber, Utah, United States. He was baptized into the LDS Church on 18 Jul 1909. He was confirmed a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints on 18 Jul 1909 . William was endowed on 2 Feb 1911. He received initiatory ordinances on 2 Feb 1911 in the SLAKE temple. He was sealed to his parents on 2 Feb 1911 in the Salt Lake temple. William died on 22 Dec 1943 at the age of 87 in Ogden, Weber, Utah, United States. He was buried on 27 Dec 1943 in Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, United States. He has Ancestral File Number 1P0S-JJ. Minnie Alena CANDLAND and William Goodman WARNER were married on 11 May 1879 in Ogden, Weber, Utah, United States. They were sealed together on 2 Feb 1911 in the Salt Lake temple.

29. Minnie Alena CANDLAND was born on 12 Oct 1859 in Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, United States. She was confirmed a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints on 1 Nov 1868 . She was baptized into the LDS Church on 1 Nov 1896. Minnie received initiatory ordinances on 1 Feb 1911 in the temple. She was endowed on 2 Feb 1911. She died on 22 May 1935 at the age of 75 in Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, United States. Minnie was buried on 26 May 1935 in Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, United States. She was sealed to her parents on 17 Oct 1974 in the Ogden Utah temple. She has Ancestral File Number 1FP3-DK.

30. Edward FREESTONE was born on 7 Jul 1855 in St. Cross, South Elmham, Suffolk, England. He was christened on 10 Aug 1855. He was baptized into the LDS Church on 6 Jul 1877. Edward was endowed on 19 Jan 1888. He lived in Woods Cross, Davis, Utah, United States from 1905 to 1941. He was sealed to his parents on 29 May 1924 in the Salt Lake temple. Before 5 May 1941 Edward was a Farmer (Truck Gardener) in Woods Cross, Davis, Utah, United States. He died at 3:00 AM of myocarditis on 5 May 1941 at the age of 85 in Woods Cross, Davis, Utah, United States. He was buried on 8 May 1941 at Bountiful Cemetary in Bountiful, Davis, Utah, United States. Margaret Jane KIPPEN and Edward FREESTONE were married on 19 Jan 1888 in Logan, Cache, Utah, United States. They were sealed together on 19 Jan 1888 in the Salt Lake temple.

31. Margaret Jane KIPPEN was born on 21 Oct 1858 in Bountiful, Davis, Utah, United States. She was endowed on 11 Jan 1875. She was baptized into the LDS Church on 11 Jan 1876. Margaret died on 2 Jun 1921 at the age of 62 in Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, United States. She was buried on 8 Jun 1921 in Bountiful, Davis, Utah, United States. She was sealed to her parents on 19 Oct 1965 in the Salt Lake temple. Margaret has Ancestral File Number 1P0S-KP.

Posted by jullianalund@gmail.com on 31 July 2011 | Posted in Addy, Anderson, Candland, Corless, Freestone, Funk, Kippen, Knox, Lee, Lund, Mills, Ranson, Swensson, Waller, Warner | Comment